Comments on: Year End Review: The patorjk.com Comeback http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/ web apps, programming talk, and random thoughts Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:45:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: patorjk http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4843 patorjk Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:06:38 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4843 Possibly, I haven't really kept up with the .NET stuff. Though I know when I pick a language it's usually because it provides some type of advantage over another language. There are things I can do in Tcl that I can't do in VB and vice versa. Sometimes speed of execution is an issue, sometimes I just want to whip up something really quickly, etc etc. If all languages had the same features and pros/cons, and the only difference was syntax, I'm not sure there'd be a good reason to use than one of them. I did a little more digging and it looks like most sites say syntax is the main difference (though C# has features that are difficult to do in VB.NET). However, someone ran some tests and it looks like there are speed differences in the code that's generated: http://www.osnews.com/story.php/5602/Nine-Language-Performance-Round-up-Benchmarking-Math-and-File-IO//page3 I'm guessing they still have multiple languages so C/C++ programmers and VB programmers don't have to learn a completely new syntax to pick up the .NET language. It makes since from a marketing perspective, but it seems a little odd. Possibly, I haven’t really kept up with the .NET stuff. Though I know when I pick a language it’s usually because it provides some type of advantage over another language. There are things I can do in Tcl that I can’t do in VB and vice versa. Sometimes speed of execution is an issue, sometimes I just want to whip up something really quickly, etc etc.

If all languages had the same features and pros/cons, and the only difference was syntax, I’m not sure there’d be a good reason to use than one of them.

I did a little more digging and it looks like most sites say syntax is the main difference (though C# has features that are difficult to do in VB.NET). However, someone ran some tests and it looks like there are speed differences in the code that’s generated:

http://www.osnews.com/story.php/5602/Nine-Language-Performance-Round-up-Benchmarking-Math-and-File-IO//page3

I’m guessing they still have multiple languages so C/C++ programmers and VB programmers don’t have to learn a completely new syntax to pick up the .NET language. It makes since from a marketing perspective, but it seems a little odd.

]]> By: Awesome AnDrEw http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4842 Awesome AnDrEw Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:36:27 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4842 Sorry I'm not too keen on the subject, but wasn't that what the purpose of the .NET framework was? I thought it was for having multiple languages that could easily produce the same results, using similar syntax, which could be applied to any of the other languages in the suite. Sorry I’m not too keen on the subject, but wasn’t that what the purpose of the .NET framework was? I thought it was for having multiple languages that could easily produce the same results, using similar syntax, which could be applied to any of the other languages in the suite.

]]> By: patorjk http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4840 patorjk Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:50:37 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4840 It seems kind of odd that you'd have a suite of languages and the only difference would be syntax. Good to know though. I'll probably check out both C# and VB and just go with whatever one is easiest to write. It seems kind of odd that you’d have a suite of languages and the only difference would be syntax. Good to know though. I’ll probably check out both C# and VB and just go with whatever one is easiest to write.

]]> By: sloat http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4826 sloat Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:53:05 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4826 I had to use VB.NET 2k3 for a class and I found it to be much more verbose than C#. Or at least that's what it felt like. But, other than syntax, there's no difference between the managed .net languages. They all produce the same output. C++ is still my favorite for unmanaged code out of the .net languages. It's kind of ugly with managed code. I had to use VB.NET 2k3 for a class and I found it to be much more verbose than C#. Or at least that’s what it felt like.

But, other than syntax, there’s no difference between the managed .net languages. They all produce the same output. C++ is still my favorite for unmanaged code out of the .net languages. It’s kind of ugly with managed code.

]]> By: patorjk http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4825 patorjk Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:11:59 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4825 Actually, it looks like the express editions are out now: http://www.microsoft.com/express/product/default.aspx I might check out the VB one tonight. I've been wanting to learn C#, but I'm not sure I want to get caught up in trying to learn too many different things right now. Unless C# is amazingly better than the new VB. Actually, it looks like the express editions are out now:

http://www.microsoft.com/express/product/default.aspx

I might check out the VB one tonight. I’ve been wanting to learn C#, but I’m not sure I want to get caught up in trying to learn too many different things right now. Unless C# is amazingly better than the new VB.

]]> By: Awesome AnDrEw http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4815 Awesome AnDrEw Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:53:30 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4815 I've read the newest version of Visual Studio is due out sometime during the summer, but for now I'll stick with 2005. Although it has many handy features, and supports Regular Expressions better than Visual Basic 6 I find that the code runs a lot slower, and I'm still not sure how to create simultaneous connections like using an array of Winsock controls. I’ve read the newest version of Visual Studio is due out sometime during the summer, but for now I’ll stick with 2005. Although it has many handy features, and supports Regular Expressions better than Visual Basic 6 I find that the code runs a lot slower, and I’m still not sure how to create simultaneous connections like using an array of Winsock controls.

]]> By: patorjk http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4814 patorjk Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:35:43 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4814 As of this writing, it's had 15 downloads this month (over the last 2.5 days). I'm not sure who uses it. I use it every so often when I need some VB6 work done. I actually think the audience for VB6 is grossly underestimated. Though I know some people use it because it can do things like "hide windows" or "enable disabled objects". I actually thought about writing a program specifically for doing things like that, but I've been side tracked. I'll have to look into the Express Editions of Visual Studio. I have version 2003, but I'm not sure if I want to start there since it's already a little dated. As of this writing, it’s had 15 downloads this month (over the last 2.5 days). I’m not sure who uses it. I use it every so often when I need some VB6 work done. I actually think the audience for VB6 is grossly underestimated. Though I know some people use it because it can do things like “hide windows” or “enable disabled objects”. I actually thought about writing a program specifically for doing things like that, but I’ve been side tracked.

I’ll have to look into the Express Editions of Visual Studio. I have version 2003, but I’m not sure if I want to start there since it’s already a little dated.

]]> By: sloat http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4813 sloat Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:55:49 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4813 I always hate it when I put a lot of effort in to something and no one gives a crap about it. But I guess the important thing is that you're happy with it the way it is. If other people like it, that's just a plus. It's weird that people still talk about (and presumably use) the API spy. Could it really still be useful? It's cool that you're gonna get back in to Windows programming. Don't forget that you can get the express editions of visual studio for free now. I always hate it when I put a lot of effort in to something and no one gives a crap about it. But I guess the important thing is that you’re happy with it the way it is. If other people like it, that’s just a plus.

It’s weird that people still talk about (and presumably use) the API spy. Could it really still be useful?

It’s cool that you’re gonna get back in to Windows programming. Don’t forget that you can get the express editions of visual studio for free now.

]]> By: patorjk http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4785 patorjk Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:47:42 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4785 hehe, thanks for further confirming that for me. I can actually track how often people change fonts because each font change causes a hit to the getFontInfo.php file. I actually wondered if the Standard font wasn't impressing enough people so I changed it to the Dancing Font. The next day I noticed an increase in the number of hits to getFontInfo.php, and it stayed that way. I was kind of shocked that it made such a difference. hehe, thanks for further confirming that for me. I can actually track how often people change fonts because each font change causes a hit to the getFontInfo.php file. I actually wondered if the Standard font wasn’t impressing enough people so I changed it to the Dancing Font. The next day I noticed an increase in the number of hits to getFontInfo.php, and it stayed that way. I was kind of shocked that it made such a difference.

]]> By: Awesome AnDrEw http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-4780 Awesome AnDrEw Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:38:07 +0000 http://patorjk.com/blog/2007/12/31/year-end-review-the-patorjkcom-comeback/#comment-4780 I think you are probably right about first impressions. When I used TAAG a few days ago to generate some ASCII art for a "ReadMe" file I immediately noticed the fact it was on a different font, and thought, "This one looks pretty cool!" I think you are probably right about first impressions. When I used TAAG a few days ago to generate some ASCII art for a “ReadMe” file I immediately noticed the fact it was on a different font, and thought, “This one looks pretty cool!”

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